Rubin2020_PCW slack archives day5-fri-slot3a-breakout-summaries 2020-07-15---2020-08-14

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Frank Kenney Fri 2020-08-14 03:02PM
Oh No!!
Melissa Graham Fri 2020-08-14 03:02PM
What is wrong??
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:05PM
Slides are here:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:06PM
Melissa :clap:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:07PM
Colin :clap:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:11PM
Sam :clap:
Colin Slater Fri 2020-08-14 03:12PM
huge :thumbsup: for all the research bytes
Lynne Jones Fri 2020-08-14 03:13PM
Agreed! As a chair, it was interesting to hear how the discussion and presentations were similar and different between runs, and I think it was a really great format.
Jeff Carlin Fri 2020-08-14 03:13PM
We (the SOC) thought a lot about how best to make the Research Bytes work - would love to hear your thoughts about what did or didn't go well! Thanks to Pat and Melissa for organizing it!
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:13PM
Fed :clap:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:15PM
Keith :clap:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:16PM
Phil :clap:
Alison Rose Fri 2020-08-14 03:17PM
I have found the whole week really useful and digestible and communal. I think it is excellent that all the sessions were recorded and stored. I appreciated everything but a standout for me were the Chilean project team member talks, particularly on the systems and electrical engineering; the earthquake mitigation etc. Sincere thanks to the whole organizing team, for all your work in preparing this. It was clearly a lot of extra work; a lot of commitment to the Project and the Community.
Lynne Jones Fri 2020-08-14 03:23PM
Agreed - I am also so happy that the sessions are recorded. There is always something you end up missing, and having the recording as well as slides available is super nice. (and the slack chat).
Lynne Jones Fri 2020-08-14 03:24PM
As a session chair, I also really appreciated the general format - if we had done this on a normal year, the material that we were able to put into short sections of pre-recorded videos (that could be aimed at different audiences) would have taken a large session by itself, and then any discussion with the science collaborations/wider community would have been a second session. Instead, we were able to have just one shorter (one hour!) session.
Lynne Jones Fri 2020-08-14 03:25PM
As an attendee, having a shorter length of the day taken up with being in a room listening is also SO NICE for my brain.
Lynne Jones Fri 2020-08-14 03:28PM
So thanks SOC members @Melissa Graham @Ranpal (she/her/hers) @Keith Bechtol @Jim Annis @Federica Bianco (she/her/hers) @Pat Burchat @Jeff Carlin @Zeljko Ivezic @Somayeh Khakpash for a lovely PCW!
And all of the support from @Emily (she/her) was amazing!
Melissa Graham Fri 2020-08-14 04:22PM
@Lynne Jones I was inspired by the way you and Survey Strategy took to the option of pre-recorded materials - in future years I'd like to integrate this with and maybe the Rubin website, so that where appropriate, such excellent videos become more permanent installation... Still thinking about it but... :thankyou: !!! I'd like to circle back later and find out more about your process for prepping the resources.
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:19PM
Lynne :clap:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:21PM
Leanne :clap:
Emily (she/her) Fri 2020-08-14 03:21PM
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:25PM
Dan :clap:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:28PM
Lee :clap:
Frank Kenney Fri 2020-08-14 03:28PM
:telescope: :satellite_antenna: :satellite: :computer: :nerd_face: Thank You, Looking Forward to EPO, Don't get pushed to the side by the challenges of restarting the project, without EPO is like having a rover without a camera.
Alison Rose Fri 2020-08-14 03:29PM
Yes. exactly. It's for the whole world :-)
Amanda Bauer Fri 2020-08-14 03:28PM
Education and Public Outreach (EPO) interactive demos for PCW2020:
Survey Form for your EPO-related feedback and ideas:__
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:29PM
Lauren :clap:
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 03:30PM
This LSSTC funding summary just made me think of something that never occurred to me before informed by the EDI session we had this morning: If you could really get the resources (a non trivial amount of money) perhaps you could endow faculty positions at HBCUs to get Rubin related scientists into faculty positions at HBCUs, thereby bringing them and their research groups into the community. (Sorry couldn't find a link to slides and who gave the presentation)

Could someone pass this to that speaker if he doesn't read it?
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:31PM
Keith :clap:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:34PM
Greg :clap:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:36PM
Jeno :clap:
Mariano Dominguez Fri 2020-08-14 03:37PM
Congratulations to the SOC and all the speakers for such amazing workshop. :clap: :+1: :star-struck:
Lee Kelvin Fri 2020-08-14 03:39PM
I can see 4 @Colin Slater 's in this image, any advance on that? :grin:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:40PM
lol, it's a representative image... :joy:
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 03:39PM
Can't have too much Colin.
Will Clarkson Fri 2020-08-14 03:40PM
So that's how Colin gets so much done, he's actually four people
Colin Slater Fri 2020-08-14 03:43PM
Attending the same telecon four times doesn't help with that!
Fritz Mueller Fri 2020-08-14 04:14PM
Colin, you're lensing...
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 04:25PM
Strong Lensing.
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 04:30PM
This might seem impressive on Colin's part. but I exist multiple times in one of the physical images from an in person PCW meeting.
Meg Schwamb Fri 2020-08-14 03:41PM
A big thank you to the organizing committee, session chairs, and helpers
Matthew (he/his) Fri 2020-08-14 03:41PM
Can't say it enough!
rmandelb Fri 2020-08-14 03:42PM
Many thanks to the organizers! I really appreciate the effort undertaken to make this meeting happen in virtual format, even though we couldn't meet up in person as planned! The care taken to making it a well-run virtual meeting really shows and is much appreciated.
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 03:42PM
Thanks Victor :clap:
Jovan Aleksic Fri 2020-08-14 03:42PM
Outstanding event! Thank you all!
Lorena Hernandez Fri 2020-08-14 03:43PM
Thanks for a very nice meeting!!
Jovan Aleksic Fri 2020-08-14 03:43PM
:clap: :clap: :clap:
Rbiswas4 Fri 2020-08-14 03:43PM
Preethi Nair Fri 2020-08-14 03:43PM
Thanks to all the organizers! Great Meeting!
Monika I. Jurkovic Fri 2020-08-14 03:43PM
Thank you! :clap:
Dragana Ilic Fri 2020-08-14 03:46PM
Amazing work of the organizers! :100:
You really set pretty high standards into the organization of a virtual workshop! Congratulations! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Isidora Jankov Fri 2020-08-14 03:51PM
Thank you for the amazing workshop!
David Buckley Fri 2020-08-14 03:54PM
Excellent week - thanks everyone :clap: :+1:
Nino Cucchiara (he/him/his) Fri 2020-08-14 04:00PM
@Chris Walter you want to be careful what you wish for. A faculty at an HBCU teaches 12-15cr hours per semester, so the assumption that he/she will be able to do research is dangerous at best. Rubin faculty can be at HBCU and run away 3-4 years later b/c they see their peers moving along faster
Nino Cucchiara (he/him/his) Fri 2020-08-14 04:02PM
So the words of the day should be "funding and sustainabilty"
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 04:02PM
Sure. But there are some people who want to teach at HBCUs. I am suggesting supporting them via new positions (e.g. one near here doesn't have astro faculty) or perhaps buying out their teaching.
Nino Cucchiara (he/him/his) Fri 2020-08-14 04:03PM
My suggestion is empowering them to write competitive grants that will allow them to buy out teaching time AND sustain students. They will not be able to do research on their own, but with Rubin SC support they can do well and be the conduit for diverse Rubin participations (ugrad/grads)
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 04:07PM
Yes, In our connection to a HBCU in nuclear physics (in a DOE lab hosted on campus) part of the funding sometimes reduces their teaching load etc. Those people have their own research program. So, I was thinking about that, but also about places that have no astro program now as we think about how to reach out to the network of those universities. But anyway, it sounds like you know more about it than me :slightly_smiling_face: . Just passing an idea for discussion along to the LSSTC people since those universities educate a large percentage of Black undergrads in physics (as noted in the team-up report). Thanks!
Nino Cucchiara (he/him/his) Fri 2020-08-14 04:11PM
@Chris Walter I appreciate your suggestions and they are absolutely vital to the conversation. What I want everybody to keep in mind is that of 107 HBCUs only a dozen are in the situation you are describing. So, again, you cannot use, e.g., Howard as your stereotypical HBCU
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 04:25PM
Anyway, thanks for the response. Figuring how to engage with that community is clearly important.
Nino Cucchiara (he/him/his) Fri 2020-08-14 04:25PM
Absolutely, the fact we all talk about this is a drastic change from a year ago or more.
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 04:37PM
BTW if there are a dozen in that sort of situation, why not target them? That's actually a lot and would impact a lot of students.
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 04:38PM
Do you think that would be a problematic approach?
Chris Walter Fri 2020-08-14 04:14PM
[For the record, not talking about Howard here but I understand what you are saying. The unique thing in the situation I am talking about (NCCU working with the TUNL lab) is a close connection to the lab and people also getting money through their umbrella. I am wondering if something more virtual could happen with Rubin. But I totally get what you are saying]
De Marte De QuiƩn Fri 2020-08-14 04:24PM
Thanks for this workshop! It was amazing. I want you know that my project De Marte De Quién has been posting about The Rubin Observatory, if someone wants to see or spread this kind of content, you can follow or contact us here: Thanks to the organizers! :100: :clap:
Ranpal (she/her/hers) Fri 2020-08-14 08:28PM
The recording of the live session is here: